From the Albuquerque Journal:
Collins said he sees a good poem as an eye chart. "A big E that everyone can see. As you read down, you get to some part of illegibility. (The poem) makes no demands at first, making a few statements that are inarguably true -- sitting there looking at a hibiscus -- but by the middle and toward the end, we've drifted into much more mysterious and complex and tricky waters.
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